“As a woman, I think porn is a disgrace,” Billie Eilish said during her appearance on SiriusXM’s The Howard Stern Show on Monday (Dec. 13). Billie, 19, sang about her disgust on “Male Fantasy,” the closing track of her new album, and she told Howard that this hatred came from personal experience. “I used to watch a lot of porn, to be honest. I started watching porn when I was like 11,” she said, explaining that it helped her feel like “one of the guys.” However, exposure at that young age was catastrophic for her developing mind. “I think it really destroyed my brain and I feel incredibly devastated that I was exposed to so much porn,” she said.
“The first few times I, you know, had sex, I was not saying no to things that were not good. It was because I thought that’s what I was supposed to be attracted to,” added Billie. “I’m so angry that porn is so loved, and I’m so angry at myself for thinking that it was okay. The way that vaginas look in porn is f-cking crazy. No vaginas look like that. Women’s bodies don’t look like that. We don’t come like that.”
This pain and anguish are evident in the opening lines of “Male Fantasy.” Billie’s melancholy album closer opens with her singing, “Home alone, tryin’ not to eat / Distract myself with pornography / I hate the way she looks at me / I can’t stand the dialogue, she would never be / That satisfied, it’s a male fantasy.” Later in the song, Billie sings about the troubles with trying to connect with someone, a subject she brought up to Howard, 67, during her chat. “I’m not a serial dater … I don’t go to stuff and flirt with people,” she explained, “It’s really hard to meet people when people are either terrified of you or think that you’re out of their league.”
“Last year, I thought that I’d be single for the rest of my life. I genuinely couldn’t even picture myself in a relationship of any sort,” she said. “I got over that pretty fast.” Billie, who still maintains a level of privacy when it comes to her social life, has been recently romantically linked to Matthew Tyler Vorce, an actor, and podcaster behind the horror series Searching For Putty Man.
In addition to revealing her anti-porn stance. Billie told Howard that she caught COVID-19 over the summer. “F-ck that sh-t, dude,” she said of the disease. “It was bad. I didn’t die, and I wasn’t going to die, but that does not take away from how miserable it was. I mean, it was terrible. I still have side effects. I was sick for like two months almost.” She credits her survival to getting the COVID-19 vaccine.
“I want it to be clear [that] it is because of the vaccine I’m fine. I think if I weren’t vaccinated, I would have liked died because it was bad. When I say it was bad, I more just mean it felt horrible, but really in the scheme of COVID it wasn’t bad,” she said. “The vaccine is f-cking amazing. It also saved Finneas from getting it, saved my parents from getting it, [and] saved my friends from getting it.”
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